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 Post subject: Thoughts on gear/gem/spec
PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:13 am 
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Hello everyone! I was hoping to get some feedback on my druid's gear/gem/spec. I didn't specifically build the toon for a very specific role as I switch between tank and raid healing.

I'm not as well read on droods so any feedback would be much appreciated!

Here's my armory link:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Arathor&cn=Derakon

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on gear/gem/spec
PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:52 pm 
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The armory is showing feral gear... and well, you don't want me auditing that :)

Is wow-heroes.com updated with your current resto gear? Also, why the 14/0/57 spec? With the changes to nature's grace, and how much haste you can get it's really only valuable for casting regrowth... in my opinion it's not worthy of three talent points unless you are going for an 18/0/53 build.

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on gear/gem/spec
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:00 am 
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Oompf...my bad. I usually switch to feral for the 1 second queue on the daily heroic and apparently forgot to change back to Resto. If ever though, WoW Heroes is now updated with my current gear.

I am embarrassed to admit it, but when I was starting to go resto around two months back, I just copied the "best" spec in wow-popular, without actually reading up a bit more on it. Back then though, my haste was very low, so I thought it wasn't too bad of an idea.

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on gear/gem/spec
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:50 am 
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Ok, spec first. Auracen mentioned the 18/0/53 build, in which you'd be going down Balance to max out Celestial Focus. Why? Your haste is still quite low in terms of achieving a 1 sec GCD, which dramatically increases throughput in 25s especially. Celestial Focus being maxed drops the haste needed for that almighty capped GCD from 856 to 735. Sexeh indeed while gearing up to there. Once you achieve the haste from gear, spec'ing out of CF to an 11/0/60 build is pretty much the norm.

As for gear, it looks like you're trying for haste wherever you can get it, which is good. BUT socket bonuses <<< 1 sec GCD in overall throughput. Try using a Nightmare Tear in your next head upgrade to keep that meta activated and fill any new upgrades with Reckless Ametrines only (unless you're at 856 haste ofc.) I know this may be difficult and counterintuitive. It will increase your effectiveness. Don't waste your time and gold regemming what you already have though, especially those items 245 ilevel and under, that you will likely/hopefully be upgrading. Try to attain your t10 4 piece, if you will be doing any 25-man raid healing ever. I actually kept wearing my 4t9 until I had the emblems and tokens to upgrade to 4t10 all at once. We can haz some OP set bonuses this expac. With the ICC buff up so high now, my PERSONAL gearing strat goes basically: haste to GCD cap > Spirit > Spell Power. Many folks would say I have my Spirit and Spell Power backwards. I prioritize regen over throughput because for me and my guild giving out my Innervates to our priests/pallies freely increases overall healing effectiveness. Once hitting a certain point in Spell Power (around 4k raid buffed) more just seems to tend to equate to an increase in overheal rather than raid survival. Plus there's no sweeter soup than being (one of) the last healer(s) standing on a brand new boss kill having frantically kept everyone up that last desperate 5%. When others have OOMed and died with their fancypants zomg max throughput (look! My Rejuv hits for 30 more than your Rejuv so I'm a better healer, rofl) setups I merrily kept spam casting without a care in the world for my manabar and the boss died.

I too bounce between raid and tank heals depending on the fight at hand and raid comp that night. I do so by swapping my Glyphs up, not my gear or spec (11/0/60,) and generally carry stacks of: Nourish, Wild Growth, and Rapid Rejuv. Only Glyph I never really swap is Swiftmend. Because eating another's Tree's HoT is just plain rude. I GENERALLY swap WG and RR for each other, but on certain fights it's more advantageous for me to drop Nourish for RR. Many Trees do not like Rapid Rejuv, I do like it for specific fights where damage is more concentrated and predictable via a debuff or such rather than splash or aura.

Playstyle varies by fight, but max throughput for aura damage fights (BQL, Sindragosa, etc) is going to be WG on CD with Rejuv spam in between. Maybe a LB on the current tank before you duck behind a tomb or something, and of course SM up ppl on the brink of death, but not much else. Tank healing depends, as so much else does too, on who you are healing with. Some fights and comps me being on tanks means rolling HoTs across all 3 like a BC Tree. I like doing that, makes me nostalgic for Hyjal. More often it means full HoTs on one or possibly two tanks with an itchy trigger finger hovering over Nourish and/or Swiftmend in between HoT reapplications. A lot of effective Tree tank healing, and any other class imho, comes down to being so familiar with a bosses' timers that you find yourself precasting a big heal without even looking at your boss mod because you KNOW that big ability is incoming. That usually only comes with grinding your face on said boss until you can't help but instinctively wince seconds before your tanks have gone splat so many times before. Or, you know, being very situationally aware. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on gear/gem/spec
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:25 am 
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aoyanagi wrote:
Try using a Nightmare Tear in your next head upgrade to keep that meta activated
A Nightmare Tear is much weaker for us than a Purified Dreadstone. Since there will be plenty of yellow elsewhere, one Purified is enough to keep the meta going.

I geared for 856 haste at one point, but I found that I'd made too many sacrifices in spirit and spellpower to get there. Keep the stats balanced; I would not give up all your spirit to get to 856, for example. Find a mix that works for you with your gear, and favor spirit + spell power + haste rating upgrades whenever you can.

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Many Trees do not like Rapid Rejuv, I do like it for specific fights where damage is more concentrated and predictable via a debuff or such rather than splash or aura.
I tend to just Nourish in those cases; it's usually only three or fewer people affected. It's most important to have a UI that shows you who those people are so you can proactively do something (whatever your playstyle prefers) rather than waiting for them to have taken damage from it.


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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on gear/gem/spec
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:44 am 
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Oleander wrote:
aoyanagi wrote:
Try using a Nightmare Tear in your next head upgrade to keep that meta activated
A Nightmare Tear is much weaker for us than a Purified Dreadstone. Since there will be plenty of yellow elsewhere, one Purified is enough to keep the meta going.


I'd agree.

Oleander wrote:
I geared for 856 haste at one point, but I found that I'd made too many sacrifices in spirit and spellpower to get there. Keep the stats balanced; I would not give up all your spirit to get to 856, for example. Find a mix that works for you with your gear, and favor spirit + spell power + haste rating upgrades whenever you can.


I wouldn't go full haste to get there, but at one point I replaced 7 23 Spellpower gems with 7 SP/Haste gems, picking up socket bonus's along the way to get to the cap... I think that was totally worth it, and as I've picked up more haste gear I've taken those gems back to full spellpower.

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on gear/gem/spec
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:26 pm 
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You guys are totally right on the Tear, should have been a Dreadstone. 'S what I get for posting in the morning before my second cup of coffee. Mixed my Tree and SV Hunter gemming strats up. Doh! :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on gear/gem/spec
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:39 pm 
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aoyanagi wrote:
'S what I get for posting in the morning before my second cup of coffee. Mixed my Tree and SV Hunter gemming strats up. Doh! :oops:


/pat :)

I wondered what you were thinkin there :D

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on gear/gem/spec
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:21 pm 
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Thanks for the reply ya'll! :)

Just to clarify the gemming suggestions. Use 1 SP/SPI gem for the meta (on a blue socket), stack sp/haste on everything else until I meet the haste cap?

I will push down and get CF. I have seen it to be the usual tree build until I have enough haste to run without it.

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on gear/gem/spec
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:26 pm 
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Kishafefe wrote:
Use 1 SP/SPI gem for the meta (on a blue socket), stack sp/haste on everything else until I meet the haste cap?


Generally yes... I'm not sure I'd be putting SP/Haste gems in red sockets just to get to the cap, but you get the idea.

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on gear/gem/spec
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:34 pm 
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Awesome! I'll change things up a bit to what you guys have shared! :)

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